"There's going to be a political shift," he said.
"But, as you see in the behaviour of the Italian and Austrian
governments, with this Brexit drama, no one seriously wants to leave the
EU or the euro. What is being discussed at the moment is what the EU
looks like. There are differences between right-wing forces who have a
rather illiberal interpretation of democracy and those who stand for
liberal democracy: this is going to be the confrontation in the EU", he
added.\
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